I have heard others having issues with Roadtrek conversions in the last few years. Roadtrek is essentially a nameplate of EHG, not a separate company. After repeated calls to sometimes confused customer service reps, I learned the underhood generator falls about 20 percent short of providing the capacity to drive the roof air conditioner, thus requiring shore power hookups to prevent dead house batteries. Hammill was suspended. The blockbuster news is that the North American operation as of today has been excluded from Thors plan to purchase the Erwin Hymer Group (EHG), whose worldwide operations are headquartered in Germany. Please provide updates when you can. Cabinet latch broken (almost all of them in the first week), Various fabric items falling off of vehicle or tearing, Water pump overheating (needed replacement), Refrigerator vibrations louder than water pump. Page 4 of 4. Their intelligent awd delivers power to wheels to help get out of slippery sandy icy locations that you would otherwise be fearful of as boon dockers. Of sold inventory being hidden when someone comes to count. January 21, 2019at2:20 pm, Ray Brown said: Mike: Thank You for your report. Similarly today, Thor has also issued a statement of its pending acquisition of the Erwin Hymer Group that pointedly noted that their offer has been revised to exclude the North American division from its purchase. Just spent thousands on a new transmission. Besides the new Hymer models and the towables, a new Jeep camper company was acquired. Its been no secret that he has been sponsored by Roadtrek all along, and provided honest positive coverage of their product in exchange. Im not sure whether the newer one with duals would give her more stability. The revised terms are expected to include, among other things, both a reduction on the purchase price and a reduction in the obligations the Company would have otherwise assumed, said the Thor statement. OK, now as to expectations, high or low. I hope they dont go bankrupt and continue to honor my warranty. January 29, 2019at3:18 am, Larry D McKimm said: October 03, 2012at6:51 pm, Bob Murphy said: Also, check out how uncluttered the drivers side of the E-tek is compared to a propane-powered RS. January 21, 2019at1:58 pm, Bev Parkison said: Hate to be negative but financial mismanagement of this sort (if it did happen) is devistating to a company. Having been involved in a couple of acquisitions or mergers in my career these type of things come up while the purchaser is doing their due diligence. Was it wholly owned by family, closely held by a few, or publicly traded? We rented our first RV this summer, a Roadtrek Adventurous RS (because thats the one we were most interested in buying). generator are gone. Each one of these represents a separate bank of the battery system. The company appeared to be booming with success, as repeatedly trumpeted by its charismatic, outspoken President and CEO, Jim Hammill. I have the 2006 model with the single wheels. Thats three dealers now that are hedging against nonpayment by RoadTrek. has all the right equipment and is ready for the season. Will do. This discussion is proudly sponsored by: Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2 Thread Tools So everybody is assuming it is a fuse but I just need to know where the fuse is located. October 26, 2012at5:23 pm, Robert Wensel said: If anyone is interested in purchasing any Roadtrek, please contact me at American RV in Grand Rapids, Michigan at toll free 877-863-9527. Hi all, new to RV'ing but jumping right in full time. Combines Driver and Passenger star ratings into a single frontal rating. Dont want to seem like Im complaining but these things could be engineered better if RT is but made aware of the. I am sure they have to be very careful about what they say while an investigation is underway. The company added some other brands like en entry level priced van called the Carado. Thus it seems EHGNA will rapidly go bankrupt and owners of Hymer Group NA vehicles will be out of luck. That new countertop looks and feels great in person. Maybe we should now use a new term for Boondocking, or dry camping in the wilderness without hookups or utilities. Ultimately, Roadtrek filed for bankruptcy. You have always been above board with us and honorable in everything you do. Hammill told me if you run the engine 20 minutes a day, everything is charged enough to keep you out there for days at a time until you need to go get some more diesel for the engine. February 06, 2015at12:11 am, Susan Falco said: My 98 Roadtrek Versatile needs a new propane tank. We recently bought a 2013 Roadtrek E-Trek. January 22, 2019at9:01 am, Alan MacRae said: January 22, 2019at12:36 am, Ron Gilbert said: Mike, I was going to buy a Carado Axion Studio, an entry level Dodge 1500 Ram, with a pop top, and a small Lithium 400 system. King bed or two cots. Youtube We hope our site will help with selecting of a reliable and safe car. Fridge, generator and potty! In preparing a financial audit of the North American operation for the sale, Hymer accountants discovered extremely serious financial irregularities. News reports unconfirmed by EHG but so far undisputed by the company allege that they involved false invoices paid to family members of key managers, falsified titles, inflated sales figures, inventory discrepancies and other problems totaling between $70 and $100 million. If you have difficulty registering an account, logging in or need other account-related assistance, send us a message and well get back to you shortly. It has no propane, needs no external generator. This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. January 24, 2019at12:32 am, Larry D McKimm said: I talked to a dealer today. If it was the best 6 months ago, why are you not buying a Roadtrek replacement now and indicate that you have no longer have any relationship with the Company ? RV Trader Disclaimer: The information provided for each listing is supplied by the seller and/or other third parties. Our users can find data on mass market car models from most popular brands. Start by turning the bottom button on (it will illuminate blue), then hit the top reset button. The Side Pole Barrier test simulates a crash into a fixed object like a tree or utility pole. Be aware of recent Roadtrek recalls to always be safe on the road, Campaign Number: 15V404000 Were avid boondockers, have been RVing for 13 years and prefer finding a spot in the wilderness to campgrounds. Complaints about the unit not meeting its marketing hype, led to customer service reps reminding me that the Simplicity SRT, after all, was an entry unit, and thus was a victim of excessive expectations. All seemed to be moving well with that, until earlier this month. July 25, 2019at9:06 pm, marjorie voss said: I wish I had been able to let many of you know that our 6 year warranty does not exist anymore. Any others experiencing problems? You can run the DVD, TV and all interior LED lights just off the soar power. Because of Roadtreks past reputation, I bought a new Simplicity SRT. The web site must be shut down? We will inform you on further developments. I would guess the ultimate guarantor is Erwin Hymer Group Europe. All the cables have been tested in those boxes. Grid Interactive and Inspection Approved 48V System, Solar Friendly Heat Pump Air Conditioners. OWNER'S ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE Now you can get the protection you need, anywhere you go. Reports are that Stratton was physically escorted out of the building. Copyright 2023 RV Lifestyle. They use the term reporting irregularities. If not -batteries could be just dead. PS. Hi Mike, Loved your video on the E-Trek, however, the sound was very uneven which, at times, prevented me from hearing your melodious voice. This allows the owner to say out in the field, not connected to shore power, for much longer periods of time.. Each one of those plugs is for a different source of power. couple of cabinets popped open, on hinge let go above the clothes closet, and the bathroom leaked around the sink. It is much appreciated. So in 3-4 days your all 8 battery will be have 50% capacity. Get it off the books by paying it to a ghost employee or ghost vendor. Therefore they cant put out anything until they have all the info. You can see it all in my video above, shot at and around the Kitchener, Ontario Roadtrek headquarters in Canada. Combines Side Barrier and Side Pole Star Ratings into a single side rating. Date Manufactured: Jun 24, 2015 Thank you for a frank discussion of known issues. The executives of Roadtrek became the executives of EHG NA. All the employees at Roadtrek have been utterly amazing any time I have had contact with them. The clear plastic piece attached to the 3 inch macerator inlet also did not come with it. It was our first trip in the Roadtrek and here are my takeaways from the long drive and four nights of sleeping in the rig: It drives best between 65-70 mph. Contact Us. Maybe now we should call it Boontreking.. Also the big RV California RV show out in Pomona from Oct. 15-21. How much water? QUESTION: Do the second row captains seats have adjustable headrests? Have never tried it. And my bf still works there. Personally, I was anticipating a fact-based report from you such as this earlier (even when there were fewer knowns and many more unknowns). Before that we were considering an Era. I live in Guelph, 15 km from manufacturer. January 22, 2019at9:50 am, John Bailey said: I dont find any fault with Im on the fence on whether to wait this out in hopes that the dealer warranty work will resume soon, Im looking at over 3K of out of pocket. But its the infrastructure that has me excited. I actually bought my 2018 Roadtrek CS XL largely based on the fact that since you had a Roadtrek, had videos, podcasts and obvious experience and knowledge it must be the best brand to purchase. La Mesa RV will not even try to bill them. We have rumors of ghost sales of ghost units. Terrible for the company and their employees and those recently let go. Whether it's your first Roadtrek or your fourth, there are often questions that arise, below are a list of our most frequently asked questions to assist you. Hopefully the Roadtrek brand will continue. Washington, D.C. 20590, Twitter I made my way across the International Bridge to Canada in Port Huron, MI and drove 100 miles northeast to the Roadtrek factory in Kitchener, ON. We took delivery of our Simplicity in September, I hope Roadtrek honors the warranty. I would have thought that Roadtrek would have built this on a 2500 chassis since the weight of the propane system and aux. Any 1 inch diameter hose will work. Hope they are able to address the problem and fix it. Maybe it's because it's not really a mass consumer product? Then, today, Monday Jan. 21, came the Thor press release and the EHGNA employee letter. This sounds very strange. They did you a favor by not attempting to service your unit. Dealer raised the bed even wit the cushions, but said nothing could be done with the gap. 2000 Road trek everything. January 23, 2019at8:03 am, Mike Wendland said: I have no information other than the story I have reported. September 29, 2012at1:16 pm, Mary Wiles said: Hook me up to this unit that needs no hookups! No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. September 29, 2012at8:12 am, Alice Stern said: Wow, that is beautiful, I love everything I see! View our entire inventory of New Or Used Roadtrek RVs. They are doing an audit. January 23, 2019at10:03 am, Ross Williams said: No, lets call this what it is, rumors. Sadly, most RV manufacturers are reluctant to provide this info to the end user. Theyve removed the old gas burners and put in an instant-on all electric induction stovetop and added some stylish new counter and table tops made of recycled plastic. ]Sorry I missed read your last post I will look for that fuse. Whom ever put the Lead Acid batteries in this house application -did not do you any favors -unless the decision was based on economics. Thanks for the pics and video. Everything is fine with the alternator and the house batteries under the hood. You must log in or register to reply here. I do know from my sources that today, the factories in Kitchener and Cambridge are open, vans are still being built, expenses are being trimmed, possible layoffs and furloughs are being considered and a team of accountants and auditors are going over the books in an effort to find out what went so very wrong and why. Last week, nearly 100 of the newest company hires those hired less than three months ago were summarily fired and walked out of the company. Used 2016 Roadtrek E-Trek $109,995. i am in central Florida at 1-877-663-7506. Can the secon row seats be replaced with storage cabinets for those of who do not travel with extended family or guests. Can anybody see any glimmer of hope? Because of my disability I can't move around in it very . My question, sir, is should we instead purchase an etrek? I do not work for the company and they are not returning media calls or offering any more information other than what has been reported. February 09, 2019at4:45 pm, Byrdie Pillinger said: Yes, I want to know any updates when you get them! Well, forget about A/C, water heater, TV and other devices. Some of their vans are built on sprinters, some not. Keep up the good work it is appreciated! If you make a sale of a non-existent ghost unit to a non-existent ghost buyer what do you do with the ghost cash you get in payment? November 10, 2012at9:49 am, Gordon Meggison said: I notice this unit also has the mechanical bed. September 29, 2012at8:16 am, Gordon said: Mike, nice video. Keep me touch! OR have pretty deep pockets and a list of trusted handy guys to bail you out. Late on Friday, Greg Gerber, editor and publisher of RV Daily Report, broke the story of the scandal. She did everything we asked and pulled an enclosed trailer 3000 miles with absolutely no problems! Neither Hymer nor Thor would return Gerbers calls or issue any comment on the allegations, which only led to more speculation and more rumors. It is really more of a C than a B as it was built on a cutaway chassis. Do they have to take apart the entire interior to access? It may not display this or other websites correctly. Mike,loved your video on the E-Trek, however, the sound was very uneven which, at times, prevented me from hearing your melodious voice. Or maybe you can give others some advice? Im not sure what role it plays in all of this LOL. It did have some leak problems with the rear window but we pulled it and replaced the gasket with Buytal tape and should never leak again. Help! The panel appeared to show the shore power was charging the batteries. Hello solo female van dweller having major issues with my Etrek 2015. Dont know if others are experiencing this but thought you should know. These issues include safety recalls for your Roadtrek E-TREK and complaints other owners have filed. Showed always full. I'm considering purchasing a 2015 e-Trek; doing some online research I'm finding a few posts where owners are not pleased at all with their units. Sort of a bad way to "cheap out" on construction considering cost to the buyer both of the unit and the potential problems. So if you are traveling and have a warranty issue, good luck. It may not display this or other websites correctly. In an internal statement sent to EHGNA employees this morning, signed by two EHG worldwide CEO Martin Brandt and CFO Stefan Junker, the company confirmed several managers have been suspended as a result of the investigation but dd not specify who they were. I have no doubt they indeed will. Power consumption of refrigerator as low as 6 A/h ( just for sample ) Are you glowing in the dark yet? January 21, 2019at10:59 pm, Jason Epperson said: Roadtrek essentially became EHG NA. January 23, 2019at3:19 pm, Tom Barr said: I was watching Hymer before they came to North America. It provides independence to the owner. Best of all it's totally FREE! Learn More, Enroll or Renew Now Roadtrek/Hymer has at least two other couples they have similarly sponsored, as do other large RV manufacturers here and abroad. January 21, 2019at2:22 pm, Judy Sadler said: I echo what you say, David. Enjoy the stories, info, and pics. It is also my business. Theyve added a second water spigot that delivers instant hot water for tea or hot chocolate or filtered drinking water. It is refreshing to see a news report that isnt full of sensationalism, but is a factual statement. Roadtrek is wonderful. After a slow start, a line of ultra light weight towables the Hymer Touring GT was introduced. To keep it simple and straight forward: They run a shady operation at best. Hammill, who was out of the office on sick leave was reportedly home at the time he was notified of the suspension. Instead, it provides all the juice you need through an advanced generator system that runs off the vehicle engine, aided by a solar panel and optional fuel cells. We will be buying one more Roadtrek (to replace out 2003) and this new one looks very nice. If your going to own a RV. I work 60-65 hours a week in doing our various reports. Thanks Mike you are a quality person and I am thankful for your voice. Can you please get back to me and tell me if I even have a remote chance of buying this vehicle someday in light of this scandal? Help me iRV2, you're my only hope. The E-Trek is on the regular Mercedes Sprinter chasis (170 inch wheelbase) and it is painted in a subtle shade of green. The RV is supposed to charge when Im driving down the road or turn on the engine. Dont know if others are experiencing this but thought you should know. Is the battery/inverter system still intact as installed by Roadtec? January 26, 2019at8:29 am, Clemson Engineer said: Does your contract have an escape clause.like many of these types of irregularities.you wont like the outcome.IMO I would get a refund and move on to another coach. Thanks For the update Mike. In all, we traveled about 2,300 miles through seven states - from Michigan to Florida, and back. Sign up and get a free Packing List for your next trip and free perks, discounts and RV travel tips! Right now - i would be concerned about battery condition. I did test drive it and the ABS and ESP lights came on. Several others are now in various stages ofcompletionin anticipation of the first orders starting to roll in. I have had experience with a/the Roadtrek dealer in Bend, OR. Mfr's Report Date: Jun 24, 2015 However, what would you think about buying a rig that has been used for camping for a couple weeks before you signed the papers? I would think you have a big stake in their future plans just like those of us who are employees, dealers or owners do. Pretty muchindefinitely. Thanks! Website: http://www.lamesarv.com/Follow Along Here: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lamesarv/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lamesarvPinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/lamesarv/Twitter: https://twitter.com/LaMesaRV Did you trade your RS in for an etrek? Recall Summary: Roadtrek motorhomes inc. (roadtrek) is recalling certain model year 2014 cs adventurous, e-trek, rs adventurous, ss agile, and ts adventurous vehicles manufactured from September 18, 2013, through April 9, 2015, and built on a mercedes-benz sprinter chassis.. October 06, 2012at10:46 am, Bill Mitchell said: Looks like a great vehicle, Mike. I just returned from the Tampa RV Supershow, where both Roadtrek and EHGNA sales and support people were displaying and selling new models. As a journalist, surely you recognize that this creates a conflict of interest that you should fully disclose in your reporting. Or no hot water available for E-version? Got 19 mpg at 60 mph towing a 611 trailer in florida, 17 mpg in hill ctry in Ga, and 14.9 mpg in mountains. Thanks for the update on this. The equalizer is under the Ottoman inside the van and is closest to the engine. They have families to support and mortgages to pay, yet they put those worries aside and were working very hard to sell the beautiful new vehicles they were displaying. I cant wait to get hold of an RS E-Trek for an extended period of time. Roadtrek is small, they could not have falsified that much without it being noticed. And those second row captains chairs ARE super comfy. . You are using an out of date browser. Seems like a nice design flaw to me. I hope that RT will improve on it. I echo Jacks comment get ahold of an eTrek and really test it for us future buyers. Thanks for interesting information. They have had no editorial control over this blog or our social media reports and they have never interfered with anything I have reported. He and Jim have a good relationship. Lets do simple calculations with refrigerator. I didnt hear much about heat sources or insulation yet. None of these use limitations were outlined in the colorful marketing brochures or the operating instructions. . Heck, as far as I am concerned, if you want to own an RV, a boat, a summer home, a home, a classic car, just about anything fun, it is best to be somewhat handy. Take them out under real conditions faced by RVers. Very fortuitous as I am currently shopping for an RV for my wife and I when I retire in the spring. Do you have any thoughts or suggestions for Roadtrek owners who are understandably concerned about how to ensure our 6-year RT warranties will be honored? Weve learned to manage just fine for 4 to 7 days without solar or generators so, for us, power consumption has never never the biggest issue. Roadtrek E-TREK Recalls, Problems and Complaints. My father let my family borrow his e-trek. January 21, 2019at4:27 pm, Phil Sanders said: Thanks for the update Mike. 2017 roadtrek cs adv e-trek, e-trek pkg on a cs-adv floorplan- perfect marriage ! And Ill be testing the E-Trek in real conditions out in the field in a couple weeks. Not just lead acid batteries? Love the instant hot water feature and my husband likes the solar charging. With the E-Trek's diesel fuel design, and solar charging system to help offset power use, you can enjoy being off-the-grid without increasing your carbon footprint. I promised I would let you know how the trip went to NC and GA so here it is. Thank you for your helpful! close. I am almost afraid to ask what is the retail? Thinking about adding solar panel to my 2001 Popular. Eventually a company we Americans weren't familiar with, or so it seemed, bought Roadtrek and is slowly working to rebuild the reputation with products that appeal to the dealers and customers once again. My husband had a toggle switch put in our class RV so that. This makes your insistence of having no position with the company a bit disingenuous, since you obviously are receiving significant economic benefits from your relationship with them. I am sure there will be widespread industry speculation and more rumors. This bed is the most uncomfortable bed ever. I have an RS ADV 2012 and have asked RT to work on improving the bed. Lots of optional setups. We stopped using that too. Was uncovered no doubt as due dilligence was being done before finalizing the purchase by Thor. Are we letting the RV industry and its manufacturer and dealerships off the hook too easily? We have fully enjoyed this vehicle. . Keep them coming. To properly power up your Roadtrek to get 12 volt power inside or shore power, you need to turn on your power modules. $92,000.00 Local Pickup Classified Ad 2015 Roadtrek CS for sale! Had a few issues the unit being new. By using this tool, you will be able to get records with description of safety issues for vehicles, equipment, tires and child restraints. If the van was RVIA certified - this info was generated and documented. . The auditors are the only people who know what those irregularities. September 29, 2012at9:25 am, Rhonda said: Super job in showing us this, Mike. Just an idea. Ill be curious about your thoughts on these matters after your true trial run, Mike. You better be handy too. If so, request a complete electrical schematic/diagram from Roadtec. I spoke with two attorneys today and was told that since part of the issue is in Canada, they cant take a case on this type of issue. Excellent! and the l l/2 rise on the side cusions left one sleeping with head lower than the feet. Instead, it provides all the juice you need through an advanced generator system that runs off the vehicle engine, aided by a solar panel and optional fuel cells. They are priced substantially higher than the same models when sold by Hymer NA. We've driven it in snow, rain and sunshine and pulling a trailer. We wish to inform you about recent developments in our company. Lead Acid 6v batteries need maintenance watering ~once a month. There are two other factors that I suggest Roadtrek should look at if theyre truly serious about wooing boondockers: 1)Fresh water tank capacity. I need work done but have no warranty. To properly power up your Roadtrek to get 12 volt power inside or shore power, you need to turn on your power modules. iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? FYI I probably have over 1,500 nights boondocking in this 1998 190 bought it new, has 242,000 miles on it now. Surely hope warranties are honored. Bed was very uncomfortable, the gap between the backrest and the seat when in the bed mode was simply uncomfortable. The service allows to compare and analyze statistics for We havent picked a day yet. Table 1. New or Used RV (5 Big Factors), Getting Used to our New Arcadia Fifth Wheel. Erwin Hymer Group is acting in accordance with its zero tolerance policy and is committed to a full and complete investigation. Recently I turned everything on like I was going to spend the night in it. We have been reading the manual and practicing how to use it out in the driveway. This will activate the system and you will hear a click. Enter a VIN to learn if a specific vehicle needs to be repaired as part of a recall. How do I get a copy of the options available. Dealers will be able to help answer that soon. Theres a new soft cushioned floor that looks like wood flooring. On Saturday, Gerber published a note he said he received from Hammill, the suspended CEO, who said: I am astounded that you have written something that is fabricated like this. September 30, 2012at2:51 am, Joe Buchman said: Im reading this while boondocking in my 1998 190 V. Online via my smart phone modem ap. Im also sending this link to some friends who are thinking about getting into RVing. 2021 Roadtrek Play Used $99,995.00 Local Pickup Classified Ad with Best Offer 2019 Roadtrek Roadtrek Simplicity for sale! Have not paid for a hotel for 2 to 3 conferences per year in Vegas for those 15 years, lived in it full time in Florida for five months 5 or so years ago. Component: Air Bags. It is not a subsidiary. 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